Ten Reasons to Hate France
Michael Brandon McClellan has five reasons why Americans should cheer for France in today’s World Cup matchup against the Italians (also posted on his blog). He does this in spite of the fact that:
Since their failure to support us in Iraq, France-bashing has become almost as popular of a sport amongst the American punditry as America-bashing is en vogue amongst their French counterparts.
In this, McClellan implies that bashing the French is a recent affectation, when quite the opposite is true. One of the most beloved American authors, Mark Twain, did so frequently with quips like, “France has usually been governed by prostitutes”, “French are the connecting link between man and the monkey”, and my personal favorite:
A dead Frenchman has many good qualities, many things to recommend him; many attractions–even innocencies. Why cannot we have more of these?
Even Saturday Night Live agrees that it is time that we “got back to hating the French”.
With that in mind, let’s first tear apart McClellan’s reasons for supporting France, and then list a few reasons for why we should continue to loathe the French.
McClellan’s Reasons to root for the French:
Reason One: The Fourth of July
While it is true, as McClellan says, that France gave “French blood, treasure, and frigates”, let’s examine why.
King Charles XVI made few decision on his own, and no issue of any import bothered his dull mind for long. But his foreign minister, Charles Gravier, Comte de Vergennes, hated England with an intensity that rivals the most passionate anti-French American of today.
Nor was it a one-sided agreement: in return for military support the fledgling nation agreed to engage in commerce, trading agricultural products and raw materials for manufactured goods. In other words, France would now have access to the very thing that had given Britain its great wealth without all the trouble of trying to rule a populace across an ocean.
War between France and England was seen as inevitable, so by supporting the colonies the French hoped to divert English resources. Plus, should war erupt, there was the hope of carving off the West India Islands which was in British hands.
As for the Marquis de Lafayette (which McClellan mentions), his (and other idealistic young Frenchmen’s) participation in the Revolution was expressly forbidden. Indeed, upon hearing that he was preparing to leave a warrant for his arrest was issued. So don’t thank the French for giving us a general.
In fact, students of the Revolution know that France acted throughout with the most selfish of reasons — there was no altruism involved. Knowledge of France’s motives is really reason number one to dislike the French.
Reason Two: The Statue of Liberty
The statue is, as McClellan says, “no ordinary gift”. Yet it is hardly equivalent to the $2.3 billion that the United States “loaned” France under the Marshall Plan. I know that Britain finally paid off its debt (in May of this year), but has France?
Reason Three: The Middle of the United States
Ah, the bargain of the Louisiana Purchase. Yep, a good deal that stunned Jefferson and his negotiators. They had been willing to pay up to $10 million for New Orleans alone, but Napoleon offered them all of the territory to which the French laid claim for a mere $15 million, instantly doubling the size of our nation. Why?
Napoleon was losing control of Saint-Domingue (the Haiti of today) to a slave rebellion and thus didn’t have the forces to occupy and control the territory. He was faced with a choice: give up his dream of a New World empire or give up his dream of conquering England. As war with England was deemed inevitable (as was always the case with the French), it seemed likely that England would just take advantage of the conflict and take the New World territory anyway (via Canada). So why not? After all, they had given it to Spain once and only recently taken it back. And one-quarter of the money was poured right back into the American economy: 20 million francs was to be used to cover French debts to American arms producers who had suffered during the Franco-British war.
But the bottom line is that the sale had little nothing to do with helping America, and everything to do with establishing an empire. A year after the sale, Napoleon Bonaparte crowned himself Emperor. Motives again, which upgrades reason number one from a reason to dislike the French to a full-blown reason to hate the French, especially given the fact that the money helped finance a war on all of Europe.
Reason Four: World War I
Yes, it is true that the “French people fought for four years as the anvil to Kaiser Wilhelm’s war hammer,” and that this was tragic. But for this I should root for their soccer team? By that reasoning, I should take the side of the Iranians for having fought and died in chemical attacks perpetuated by Saddam Hussein. No thanks.
Reason Five: The Tricolor
The Tricolor marched against the imperial ambitions of the Second Reich, against the hatred of the Third Reich, and it stood, under NATO, against the Hammer and Sickle of the Soviet Union.
The Tricolor flew over ships that attacked our merchant ships and over soldiers that folded to the Third Reich in record time. The Tricolor flew over the collaborationist and counterrevolutionary Vichy France regime.
Today, the Tricolor stands with any tyrant willing to fill the pockets of the prostitutes in charge of France. It stands for mealymouthed diplomacy that has results in massive grants and concessions to anyone that threatens to build a missile or attack another country. It no longer deserves our respect. As far as I am concerned, the Tricolor and everything it has stood for (or not stood for) is reason number two to hate the French.
And so a review of McClellan’s reasons gives us two solid reasons to hate the French. But wait, there’s more!
AlphaPatriot’s Reasons to Hate the French:
Reason One: French Privateers
French perfidy came early in American history: by the summer of 1797, France had seized 300 American ships and broken off diplomatic relations, demanding bribes and an outrageous loan to the government just to begin negotiations (resulting in the rhetoric, “Millions for defense, sir, but not one cent for tribute!” How typically American!).
All of which led to the “Quasi-War“, the build up of the tiny American Navy, the reestablishment of the Marine Corps and, due to widespread hostility towards the French, the passing of the infamous Alien and Sedition Acts.
During the two years of the Quasi-War about 85 French ships were taken as prizes, quite an accomplishment for the tiny American Navy, and some victories were spectacular.
Reason Two: Rousseau
Although born in Switzerland, the French have embraced Jean-Jacques Rousseau as one of their own and you can find statues of him littering the landscape throughout France.
Rousseau can arguably be blamed for communism because of his work The Social Contract which documented the concepts of “general will” and the belief that private property leads to greed, competition, vanity, inequality, and vice.
Rousseau inflicted
, significant harm to educational philosophy with the publication of Émile.
Rousseau even brought death and destruction to his adopted homeland. Napoleon is said to have exclaimed, “If there had been no Rousseau, there would have been no Revolution, and without the Revolution, I should have been impossible.”
Even if you don’t blame the French Revolution on Rousseau, there is little doubt that he made it worse. Indeed, Maximilien Robespierre was a fanatical devotee of Rousseau’s social theories, reputedly sleeping with a copy of Rousseau’s Social Contract at his side. One can remember Robespierre as one of the principal architects of the Reign of Terror, which ended with his arrest and subsequent guillotining. During the eleven months of “The Terror” over 200,000 French citizens were arrested, 10,000 of those died in pestiferous jails and 17,000 death sentences were handed down.
Rousseau was an adulterer, put all five of his children into orphanages (where most children died), was sexist, and eventually went insane and died. Yet we are still saddled with his horrid legacy. Worst of all, I had to read five of his books in one semester of my lone PoliSci course.
Aside: I have it on good authority that admiration for Rousseau is the reason that we have the phrase “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”. The original read, “life, liberty and property”. Think of how the eminent domain issue would be influenced had Rousseauian thought not intruded.
So while Rousseau has given us many, many reasons to hate the French, we will only count him as one.
Reason Three: Napoleon
Right smack in the middle of the Reign of Terror, the “new” French promote Napoleon Bonaparte to Brigadier General — and the man wasn’t even French (nor did he ever learn to speak French particularly well!). But by 1800 he was a virtual dictator as First Consul.
And even though the French had just gone through a bloody revolution in the name of liberté, égalité, fraternité, they up and elected Napoleon Consulate for Life by 1802, after which he crowns himself Emperor of France in 1804. Beginning in 1803 and continuing for eleven years he waged war across Europe, crushing 70 million Europeans under his tyrannical heel.
Sure, he was eventually defeated and exiled to Elba. But when Napoleon showed up in Paris nine months later he once again took power without firing a shot. Yes, the French inflicted Napoleon on the world not once, but twice (but we will only count Napoleon as a whole as a single reason to hate the French).
And so started the Hundred Days, which ended at Waterloo. Thank heavens for the Brits.
Reason Four: Dien Bien Phu
The Viet Minh arose to throw off a hundred years of French colonialism and in 1946 the French creates a puppet government for South Vietnam. What followed was a long, expensive and bloody campaign to keep their colony until, in 1953, the French tried for a decisive military victory to strengthen their position at peace talks scheduled for the next year.
The place they chose was Dien Bien Phu, located in a remote Vietnamese valley near the border with Laos and China. But instead of a decisive victory, General Vo Nguyen Giap conducted a brilliant 56-day siege that ended with a French surrender of 11,000 men (of which a little over 4,000 survived captivity).
The French showed that a third-world country could defeat a western nation, giving hope to would-be communists everywhere.
And as a result, the French negotiated and withdrew their forces from Indochina, leaving a gap that Eisenhower felt the need to fill. If only the French hadn’t whimped out and accepted the two tactical nukes that Eisenhower offered.
Reason Five: Vichy Kills Allies
It’s one thing to fold under a Nazi blitzkrieg and set up a collaborationist government. It is quite another to spill Allied blood to keep on being occupied by a monster.
In 1941 a mainly-Australian Allied force entered Syria to prevent the Nazis from using it as a base for for attacks on Allied forces in Egypt and to protect the oil supplies coming from Iraq.
The Vichy forces, including elements of the French Foreign Legion, were instructed to fight against any Free French cause and did so passionately. Vichy forces lost about 1,000 soldiers. The Australians suffered about 1,500 casualties, including 416 deaths.
In 1942, an invasion of North Africa by U.S. and British forces is planned. Operation Torch was launched and (predictably) the French forces fired on us.
The French Resistance took control of key locations in Algiers in the hours before the invasion. However, American Consul Robert Murphy was unable to convince General Alphonse Juin (the senior French Army officer in North Africa) or Admiral François Darlan (commander of all Vichy French forces) to side with the allies and the Vichy retook almost all the positions by morning. (Of course, the entire city surrendered by six that evening when the Americans came to town.)
French ground forces resisted for three days, causing about 3000 casualties on each side and the French navy stubbornly fought on behalf of their Nazi master for several days.
Reason Six: Oil for Palaces
This one is simple enough: Chirac supported the Oil for Palaces program even though he knew it was crooked. He opposed the liberation of Iraq because it affected the French purse. To hell with starving children or the fact that their daddies were being fed into plastic shredders or disappearing into mass graves in the desert. There was money to be made!
Reason Seven: My Experience in Paris
I spent nine hours in Paris and it was fantastic. I would live there, if not for the people.
At one point we jumped on a crowded bus, at which point I came face-to-face with Parisians. Or, I should say, nose to armpit.
The rumors of poor personal hygiene are absolutely true. I held my nose for two blocks before stumbling off, gasping, eyes streaming, forcing my traveling companions to walk the rest of the way because I simply could not take it!
Add to this the incredible French arrogance, the fact that they create a French word for every new concept rather than accepting foreign words into their language (“diskette” is “diskette” in every country except France), and those really really tiny portions they serve and we have another ample reason to hate the French.
Conclusion:
OK, I’ve given nine good reasons to hate the French (two from McClellan and seven of my own. I figure the comments section will yield at least one more good reason to fill out the ten that I put in the title.
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Reason 10 … The French refused the US Air Force permission overfly France to bomb Libya in retaliation for the LaBelle bombing in Berlin.
BTW, I was stationed in Berlin at the time and almost went there that night after my duty shift.
That’s a damn fine reason!
10a. The French and Indian Wars
10b. Charles de Gaulle (WWII)
10c. France and NATO in the 60′s
As a Canadian, I’ll say Quebec. With a wink, of course!
well i asked some american friends or just relations what they thought of your crap : 100 % of them just hate you for giving such a lame image of the united states americans.
I don’t need any answer, thanks.
Oh i forgot: about your kind of hate spreader site, an american lady i know in georgia told me “some people have opinions but no brain.”
Nice saying, isn’t it ?
Wow, such a well researched retort that totally eviscerates every one of my points.
Oh wait . . . never mind.
And we are up to 13 damn fine reasons to hate the French. Of course, I think Tom has a good point about Quebec. In fact, the 14th reason should be the fact that the French spawned French Canadians, many of whom are almost as smug as the French. Separatists indeed.
None of your “reasons” are historically valid. No serious historians could subscribe to this kind of groundless rant…France belongs to the Western civilization of which it has been one of the leader. They share the same values of human rights and democracy…France is the only major Western country that has always been our ally whatsoever ! The fact they disagreed on Irak does not make them an enemy. After all they are supporting us in Afghanistan. Hating France is like hating yourself…just totally stupid and moronic !!
PS: Some Americans stink too, but would that be a sufficient reason to hate them all??
Excuse me, but ALL of my reasons are historically valid (even the one about my experience in Paris, except that you have to take my word for that one). I have links to prove them. They really happened.
You SAYING they aren’t valid doesn’t mean that they aren’t. Whereas I offered proof you offer mere opinion.
As for the sharing of “the same values of human rights and democracy”, that was once true. But France went socialist in the 20th century and they are now out to support a decaying welfare system while desprately trying to maintain an air of relevance.
And I never said I hate them all. In fact, most of the rural French are like red-state Americans: patriotic, reasonable, intelligent, self-reliant and still appreciative of the sacrifices we made in helping to bail them out of two world wars.
Tiny portions eh?
You wouldn’t happen to be fat?
France is a wonderful place and the french are wonderful people. Lets get this straight you hate them because:
1. They didn’t want to join your monkey president in his war
2. You wish you were french
Ah! I am a pig and my president is a monkey, thus all my well-researched reasons are false! How clear!
Try looking up ad hominem fallacy and then see if you can come back and do better.
You probably are fat and yes your pres does look like a chimp your reasons might be historically spot on but, prey tell, what of it? France is still a wonderful country and the french are still wonderful people.
All France is guilty of is exercising its democratic rights. Most of the world (most Americans and British included) are opposed to the war in Iraq! why hate the people of France because their government decided to reflect this in its actions?
You dig up a bunch of arbitrary crap (probably using google) to push forward your disgusting hatred for an entire nation of people?
Get a life you pathetic Nazi!
Do you hate France because they were smart enough not to fall for America’s fabricated truth? There’s little doubt without France there would be NO United States of America. My 2 cents. peace
You mention one of the ten, uh . . . now thirteen reasons listed above and ask if that is why? Of course not! It is the long-term pattern of silly, obstructionist, arrogant, two-faced, weak-kneed, tyrant-supporting behavior.
And without France, it would have taken longer to get a USA, but to think that we wouldn’t have eventually broken off (like Canada and Australia eventually did without a revolution) is unrealistic.
I am French. I love my country.
Our history has both inspiring and embarrassing moments. You choose to focus on the negative, it’s your absolute right.
Our society strives for justice and happiness for all, yet we are unable to get rid of racism, poverty, corruption, etc.
It has wonderful places, it’s full of exciting cultural stuff. We also have abject slums whose inhabitants become more hateful every day.
Having lived there a while, I know a bunch of lovely people who make the world a better place, whose intelligence and kindness rival those of any human being. I also know more obnoxious French assholes than you do… You get my point.
How about your country, whom I love and admire for its high ideals and awesome movies and slutty-looking chicks?
Were your motives so pure in ww2 that you waited until Pearl Harbour, in December 1941, to join the fight? It doesn’t matter to me: thanks for the help, because of your soldiers I was born free!
Your boys who died in France are forever honoured there.
Should our gratitude for them include giving up the freedom they died to grant us? Should we blindly obey any American leader, whatever he says?
Are Americans always right?
You quote Mark Twain, who hated our guts, so I guess it’s acceptable. Do you know about this?
«In The Conquest of the Philippines, Twain describes the massacre of 600 Moros (a Philippine tribe), who were armed only with knifes and clubs and fortified in an extinct volcano crater, by American troops standing at the rim and shooting down on them. The president called this a “brilliant feat of arms.” This is what Twain had to say:
The enemy numbered 600 – including women and children – and we abolished them utterly, leaving not even a baby alive to cry for its dead mother. This is incomparably the greatest victory that was ever achieved by the Christian soldiers of the United States.
A later report revealed that the death toll was even higher, and Twain continued:
Headline: Death list is now 900. I was never so enthusiastically proud of the flag till now.»
Enough said, Mr. Perfect. Enjoy your hatred, you’re entitled to it.
I am a citizen of France and America. I love both countries equally. I was born in the US and have lived here most of my life. I work for the top financial services company in the world and have a masters in Political Science and Economics. When it comes to politics and French American relations (I am actively involved in diplomatic efforts on both sides), I must say that I lean more towards France for logic and objectivity. The French people are much more educated in history and international relations. They are taught to see the pros and cons as illustrated from our friend Fred (above) while Americans receive a much more unilateral education: “America is the best, fuck anyone who disagrees with us. Dont mess with Texas!”
Americans have to stop looking for negative things about France- and stop looking for a fight at every turn. The French don’t hate Americans. There are many pro-American French people in fact one of the top candidates is notoriously pro-American (Sarkozy) so Americans need not fear and therefore hate the French for looking down on them.
Further, when it comes to diplomacy, they have done many positive things for and with Americans. The truth is that France is a US ally and for the players involved, there are no major problems. France is still an active player(power) in all areas of life: banking, science, sports, law, etc…so to my friend the AlphaPatriot- give up this fight…go pick on Britain- didnt they burn down the Whitehouse? how about the Mexicans? Remember the Alamo? or better yet- the growing number of Muslim radicals who really mean it when they say: “death to Americans”
Funny , that someone from a country which existence is based on the genocide of millions of Indians , a country that supported the most criminal and violent dictatorship all over the world since 60 years , that nuked hundred thousands of innocent civilians uselessly , that napalmed hundred thousands of innocent Vietnamese , used chemicals and tested weapons on Koreans , launched incencidary bombs on jundred thousands innocent German citizens , behave like an ultra-Imperialist power dangerously for the future US generations , blackmailing poor countries to get them share their views , wage wars upon lies and by fooling the American people thanks to a tight control and auto-censorship of the medias , attack countries they themselves financed and armed (Saddam , Bin Laden), all that for oil and strategic purposes , a country that wastes 40% of the yearly earth’s energy and yet doesn’t want to sign Kyoto , a country that treats black people of Louisianna like dogs and that kill in the name of principles they only apply to themselves , a country where thousands of people die yearly because of firearms and where the number of psychopaths , criminals is the highest rate in the world , and so on .
Such a country has no lessons to give to anyone .
BTw , France (like Russia or Germany and pretty much everybody in the world that had not financial interest in doing such an injustice ) , opposed Iraq war not for their interests , because most of their economical interests are elsewhere if you know your subject , especially oil , they opposed it rather because it could only get things a lot worse in the region and because their Intelligence service knew very well what a load of bull were the WMD and fake reports at the UN . Saddam’s killing of Kurds was 15.000 , USA going in Iraq is 650.000 dead and a much unsafe world including for USA , thank you Mr Bush , we learned these last years that an US life equals roughly 1000 Arab or Third world lives , we learned that Military action is the only way to contest your ideas , it will be interesting in to know what happens in the future , the next 500 years , sadly , it’s your children that will pay the bill somehow . Everybody take notes including China , History never stops , and thanks to Mr Bush , the race for the Nuclear bomb has now begun in the rest of the world .
You should be really proud of yourself, except for your 10 anti-French points which are extremely innacurate and incomplete , and your synthesis of this fact reveal an obvious mediocrity of interpretation , but you had your conclusion before you got the facts , that’s what makes it hilarious to read .
Q. How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?
A. Nobody knows. It’s never been tried.
Mrs. Swain. She was an idiot
Seb, your joke is funny and quite true, but i just have to remenber you that in 1870, paris surrounded to the prussian after a 9 month siege ..
u armed Al quaida right ?
i have been in america for 3 months and i can assure u that american are dirty people dont wash very often
do u see how is it stupid to use your own experiment as a fact
Indochine was a little defeat compared to Vietnam
Still love USA
Kevin:
Your tourist visa should have expired by now. Most Americans are very clean. BTW: It is French Indo China.
I’m french and I think this is a mistake to hate all people in a country, how can you know everybody just by seeing only someone ?
I could read :
“The rumors of poor personal hygiene are absolutely true.”
Sometimes there is tramps in france as in all others countries, and they have no money, so they can’t have showers. If you smell them, okay, you can say that you saw a french and he was malodorous.
I can do the same in germany, UK, USA if I want to say somthing as “they don’t smell good”.
When I read this page, I notice the main reasons to hate france are historik facts, but for example I, I was born on 1985.
Am I guilty ?
No I don’t think.
Moreover, speak about past is useless, if you go in france today, you will not in france of the past, but in france of today, so judge the current france please.
And if france still do mistakes, I’m just a studient, not a politician, I don’t decide about politic choices and silly things of all my country.
Most of french people are as me : no guilty.
Maybe my words aren’t very goods but I think it’s understandable.
“hate”; it seems to be one of the favorite american word today…
Country of god, but full of hate.
Damn, you’re so stupid sometimes.
big hug from France anyway.
//I’ve had my say; your turn.
Keep it clean and civil.//
How can i keep it clean and civil in front of such an amount of BS
Your a redneck. Get a life. and look at the news and see your country get its ass kicked in Iraq…US soldiers are dying and I am laughing way to go!!!! Have an nice day.
Im sorry, but this is Americanism at its best. All of you appear to think you have a god given right to judge the world and everyone in it. Face facts, nobody likes Americans, nobody in the world.
Tom Griffiths
Nottingham, Great Britain
The French are wonderful peaceful people. Like in the Ivory Coast where they bombed the air force of that country and then fired live amo into a group of civilians. Then they want to lecture us?
Hello to all american friends. First of all I do apologized for my poor english, I´m spanish ( from Spain – Europe), I was looking some information about the masonery, and some relations beetween the terrorist atented in September 11th in New York and March 11th in Madrid. My great surprise has been to find this chat. I want to give you my point of wiew. Really there are a lot of people in Spain that is in front of our Gobertment, we think that our Gobertment is manipulated by the French Goverment, ( Jacques Chirac ). I think that the masonery is managing the mensanges in front of the U.S.A. empire. Here in Spain and in the rest of Europe the way of life is an american model so I can´t understand the high level of antiamericanism that is been running arround Europ. Only if other country wants to domain the world using a populist mensages.
> All of my reasons are historically valid
On a subject I know well, this is rather absolutely wrong.
During the Dien Bien Phu battle (where French soldiers fought bravely), the US refused to help the French with massive bombing (I don’t think it would have change the battle fate anyway), while the chinese generously helped their Vietminh allies.
As for the “two tactical nukes” it has just been a project, which would have probably led to a 3rd WW (probably another occasion for French to prove how easily they surrender).
And about “leaving a gap” that the american would have to fill. You should know that in 1945 the US refused to help the french army overwhelmed by the Japanese (general Chenault got firm orders about that), but agreed to help the communists guerillas (already Vietminhs and future Vietcongs). This hostility to French colonists only ended with the Corean war when at last the US realized who the real enemy was – as you should probably do. In the end, it can’t be said the French had a wiser policy in Indochina. So I think that the gap’s responsibility is not only on the French side and US were more than happy to take the colonists sit (I don’t mean US are colonists).
I’m French and I really love the US, but I just don’t like lies, especially against my country. I also didn’t appreciate Chirac’s attitude against the US during the Iraq crisis, since his policy led to confusion between enemies and allies. You have the right to hate the french, just try to find good arguments – like bad smell cheese (you forgot about cheese you know) – but there again you would probably don’t know what you are talking about because hatred makes people blind).
Thank you, anyway, for letting people express their opinion.
1) Yarp wrote that the French didn’t take Eisenhower’s offer of two tactical nukes because they did not want a WWIII to break out. I for one deem it to be the lack of political courage that so many Western powers, particularly France, have displayed since WWII ended. WWIII really was the Cold War, and it had already started long before when Eisenhower made his offer.
2) AlphaPatriot wrote that rural French have a more commonsensical take on America and the Franco-American alliance. As a Frenchman who lived for 27 years in France before leaving it to my great relief I feel I need to correct this view of things here: anti-Americanism is not universal among the French but differences do not quite run along the lines of rural/urban attitudes. Anti-Americanism is above all an elite thing. The French elite, especially the cultured elite, cannot stand seeing a foreign power gain more cultural influence than France. Simpler folks, be they in cities, suburbs or rural areas, oppose much less resistance to Americanization and working class people often give their offspring US first names such as Kevin and Jennifer, which is something someone with a degree would never ever consider doing in France, because my fellow French are such insufferable snobs.
My fellow French’s replies to your thread are completely disingenuous. No surprise here. I am happy you got a rise from those self-important pricks.
Congratulations AlphaPatriot on your brilliant bashing of my stinky fellow citizens. I deeply rejoice watching their inexorable decline on the world stage!
War is not the only thing in life. Maybe Americans have kept their dangerous expansionist spirit… You can live happy without that, you know!
With good food, sun ,vine, friends, not a lot of money …and peace!
PS: Thank you for the WW2, but 60 years speaking about that to justify everything, make us thinking that you don’t have more to offer anymore!
The viciousness and brutality of you French after WWI gave us WWII. Oh, and your cowardice. It you had ball one there would have been no WWII. You had the largest army in Europe and happily let Hitler (a pipsqueek at the time) return to Rhur-Rhine. Oppose him and it would have all been over. Your viciousness and greed in seeking reparations after WWI prepared the ground for Hitler’s growth. He was a French creation. America stomped him out, without any help from you. 40 or 50 million dead, with you French shipping French Jews out to death camps, is a reason (what 14 or 15 or 2000, this is too easy) to hate the French.
You gave us Napoleon and still glorify him. You gave us Hitler. You loved and helped Saddam Hussein. Is there a mass murdered slash dictator the French don’t like?
And you do stink, and eat frogs and snails, and torture geese.
It makes sense and its easy to hate France.
bonjour! mes amis! i doo nott knoow why u mock zee country of zee france personnes.. ZUT ALORS!!
Don’t forget that:
1. The French barbarian Charlemagne, the one that made France a state could neither read nor write but still he claimed the imperial regalia even if there was a REAL Roman emperor ruling over Byzantium from Constantinople. His harsh reign bought us the first stages of schism between West and East Europe, and his horrible holy wars against the Saxons permanently defiled the word “Christian”.
2. The crusades. Again, many France swine’s where there and defiled the Christian banner AGAIN by exterminating innocent civilian Palestine’s and Jews, looting every house in Jerusalem and burning most of them down. They where also extremely many French dogs who where part of the EVIL Fourth “Crusade” launched by the greedy corrupt Venetian merchants. They sacked the CHRISTIAN city of Constantinople for ever weakening the Byzantine Empire. They killed countless of innocent Greeks, destroying ancient statues (what else can you find in a Roman/Greek empire) and basically throwing the already extremely defiled banner with the Christian cross on the tip.
3. 1572 A.D. St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre. They killed countless Protestants and Jews in the “Name of God” (burning down the tip with the Christian banner in it). Ever heard of the final solution? THEY DID IT BEFORE THE NAZIS!
4. Sarkozy is a Fascist, a new Petain. Who the hell want’s his support? I only wish that Angela Merkel could show what Boadicea she is and beat the hell out of the facsit Dwarf (or is he a hob/gnome?).
5. France people are unabashedly EVIL. We all know what the first thing a typical Franceman does when he comes home from his work. That’s right. HE BEATS UP HIS CHILDREN FOR JOY! I think that is what making Frenchmen, French, even Turks are raised better. FRENCH CHILDREN ARE THE MOST SPANKED CHILDREN IN EUROPE! Inhuman I say. Their doings at the days of Charlemagne, at the Fourth Crusade, at St. Bartholomew’s Day, after WWI against the German people, what they tried to do after WWII against the Germans AGAIN, their harsh treatment of the people in Algeria make them the most EVIL nation in the world. They are even more sadistic than the Serbian Hun by nature, and we all know what they did for some years ago.
Conclusion: It is a shame that the Romans didn’t wipe out the French in the beginning of the Dark Ages they would have save billions of lives…
Hey, Alpha patriot,
good for you for putting up this website. its nice to see that somone isnt afraid to post this truths. I couldnt help but notice that most of your comments seem to be flowing in from a bunch of french loving fairies, so i figured id show my support for this wonderful site. God bless the US of A. if it werent for us, there would be a much bigger mess in the world than there is now. And as far as im concerned, were doing our best and id like to see another country even attempt to keep as much peace and democray as we are.
semper fi
Hey, Alpha patriot,
good for you for putting up this website. its nice to see that somone isnt afraid to post these truths. I couldnt help but notice that most of your comments seem to be flowing in from a bunch of french loving fairies, so i figured id show my support for this wonderful site. God bless the US of A. if it werent for us, there would be a much bigger mess in the world than there is now. And as far as im concerned, were doing our best and id like to see another country even attempt to keep as much peace and democray as we are.
semper fi
I am a Native and come from French descent. I wasnt offended. Infact, maybe you can elighten me. I am not French. Mostly Native, but still proud of being French. This is just like the Negro group speetch Martin King wrote. White people are proud of being white, but they were going too far. Black people were proud, too. I am proud to be French. I wont let these jokes get to me.
As a British citizen and histrian I support AlphaPatriots views, well any well being Britain would as France always believes they are above the British or anyone else for that matter, well AlphaPatriot is right people do hate france because they have never done anything for the world.
Here is a question for any french person what has France every done for the world of today?
Answer me that.
I am native american. You Americans love criticising other nations for their deeds however you are the people who shot us up and took our lands…and many of you hate imigrants. Look at your own history (civil rights etc) before using it for your own argument.
By hating others you only destroy yourself.
Hate accomplishes nothing, but merely gives you emotional satisfaction to boost your self-esteem. Is your inferiority complex so severe?
The Nazis hated the Jews and the KKK hates blacks. Conservatives hate liberals, the media, people that are different, muslims, hispanics, and anyone who doesn’t agree with them.
What can you find in France that doesn’t exist in America.
not trying to give a jugdment but ..the idea is not to do a USA vs France….who can say that one country is better than the other? your history is filled with terrible mistakes (apartheid, vietnam,irak ) as well as ours (vichy, algerie, …)
what really matters is how we can be better prepared , get a better education so we do not repeat the mistakes from the past.
conclusion: ignorance, arrogance, hatred is what we should fight againt
so even if as a comminication/media person i respect your views and how you choose to express them ..i would like to say that your actions do not benefit your country and the creation after wwII of the UN …a real shame
from a binational: frenchy! and american!
How sad that you judge a nation by it’s government and Parisiens. France is made up of real people-most of them just like us! I am a proud Texan now living in France, and I found this site because I was having a “BFD” Bad France Day. I feel sad that you haven’t taken the time to really know people here and then form an opinion. Life here is HARD, and people struggle to do the best they can. Life as an ex-pat can be lonely and difficult because of the language barrier, but the French have been so kind and helpful, and try their hardest to speak English with me. I came to this site hoping to make myself feel better about hating France today, but leave with the determination not to be another ugly American French hater. Viva la France!!
“France is a wonderful place and the french are wonderful people”
(quote from an older comment)
I live in france , have done for years . No matter how you try to be nice, fit in, be helpful etc. french are french – and french are horrible people. they’re cold, hate foreigners, never want to help and are too proud of their country . I compare it to all of it’s neighbouring countries ; UK, germany, holland, spain – and quite simply, france sucks.
Only an ignorant and terribly poor human being morally , would subscribe to your deeply incomplete attempts of arguments to fuel a irrational hatred .
1)4th July : thousands of French died for your independance against those who wanted to subjugate you . USA never invaded Europe to free France , you must be stupid to believe that , they invaded it to contain communism and the Soviet Union . in WWI , French were 20 millions less than Germans in population , all major victories were French (Marne , Verdun etc.. ) British troops came in greater numbers at the front only in 1916 , American in March 1918 … quote me one single memorable victory of US troops in WWI … i’m waiting . And remember that EVERY year , hundred thousands of French pay tribute to te American heroes who fought alongside French , ungratefulness is not French .
3)Napoleon has nothing to do liberté, égalité , fraternité , that is the revolution and the declaration of Human rights , you know , the one you are promoting by nuking Japanese civs to show your muscles to the Soviets , genociding Indians , Napalming Vietnamians , killing Iraqis for their oil and so on ….
By the way , Napoleon conqueered Europe for 20 years until Egypt , when did you that ?
some of his Marshals were UNDEFEATED like Davout , Bernadotte became King of Sweden , Prussian army even copied the military organization of Napoleon , you are talking about one of the all time greatest military genius that lost ultimately Only after the 6th coalition of whole Europe aginst him and actually , because of internal dissensions and tiredness of war for the French after 20 years of on-stop coflicts ….. France is the European western country that won the MOST battles during its 1000+ years of prestigious history ….
You say US had naval victories over France , don’t you know about René Trouin du Gué or Pierre André de Suffren ? French Navy was in clear numerical inferiority on seas during this period , it was unmatched on land , but not on seas as it was opposed to multiple Navies .
4) Dien Bien Phu , was 15000 French vs 200.000 Vietnamese with very good equipement , seeing as you are humiliated in Afghanistan by a handful of Taliban civilians with jellabas while you have Overwhelming material, technological and numerical superiority , you are REALLY making the fun of yourself .
5) Vichy killed allies , true , a black point in French history , just like you murdered hundred thousands of German civilians with incendiary bombs ,and notably 30.000 innocents in Normandy only in D-day , but Fox news might have not told you that .
6)Oil palaces ??!! LOL !!! USA supports the most criminal , the most evil dictatures ALL OVER the world since 60 years !!! including Ben Laden himself , the Talibans , Khomeyni , Nicaragua , Pinochet , Saudi Arabia’s dictature etc..etc..
By the way , France small interests in Iraq was nothing but a detail in their strong opposition to an unilateral , illegal invasion of a sovereign country for winning its ressources without UN support and now you can notice how RIGHT and wise was their decision .
All you will get in the end with this , is that more Frenchmen and people across the world will hate you , and one day , you will get back the fruits of your insults and hatred , with interests …
“I live in france , have done for years . No matter how you try to be nice, fit in, be helpful etc. french are french – and french are horrible people. they’re cold, hate foreigners, never want to help and are too proud of their country . I compare it to all of it’s neighbouring countries ; UK, germany, holland, spain – and quite simply, france sucks.”
If you were really living in France , you would not say that , a majority of French have a lot of respect and admiration for USA , millions of French visit USA in their life , follow American culture and are grateful of America ‘s soldiers who fought and contributed to free France in WWI and WWII .
French are less nationalistic than some of their neighbours , like UK and Italy , if you really live in France , you should kow that , the last sentence “France sucks” betrays you .
For having spent time in the US , a country that i appreciate a lot despite those of you insulting us , US citizens are more nationalistic , and you would never see French people making websites to insult Americans like you do for the French , never , we are too respectful to fall such low .
The two people have so much in common , culturally and historically , every attempt to harm this relation like this article , will further isolate you and weaken both countries at the great satisfaction of others . And it really breaks our hearts to see that you became so Imperialist , with that attitude ” Anyone who doesn’t agree with us , is against us ” , you know what ? bee there done that for centuries … Not only it is pathetic but deeply unfair , because France has always been close to you and will always help and fight for you if you are really in danger, that is a 1000% certainty .
This hatred of yours leads nowhere , and you will realize it soon enough , cause China and others will wake up and challenge you sooner than later . Even now , Neo-cons are making a complete u-turn and are begging the UN to clean your mess in the Middle East .
The French would not even be here today with the help of the Americans or the British at one stage the french wont to join parliments with Britain, France have done many things wrong in there past they have never won a popular war without help look at the civil wars they had to have three because they couldnt do it right.
French people on there own are fine but together they think there all that.
France would not be here today with out America or Britain, and Usa would have gained inderpendnce if they was still with the British Empire just like all countrys did under Britian.
Yeah , just like America would not even be here today without the French helping them on sea and ground against the British Empire .
Never in hell would the weak 13 colonies of the US at the time , would have defeated the British Empire forces on sea and ground , without French military support culminating at the battle of Yorktown …. even Condoleeza Rice acknowledged it last time she came in France .. or ask any credible historian ..
You see , fueling the hate is ridiculous , America deserves better than that , 230 years of friendship is stronger than these minority of reactionnary ignorant haters like the one who wrote that ridiculous article , and there is so many things in common between our people , that you actually shoot a bullet in your foot by falling so low with that French-bashing , it will only weaken you in the long term .
“No two Nations exist which are more united by historic and mutually friendly ties than the people of France and the United States.”
President Franklin D. Roosevelt
Hi, I am French. I want to thank the people who defend France on this blog, which I think is just… awful.
We don’t smell more than Americans in summer, we take showers everyday and even brush our teeth. And you can admit, if you see my article, I solved the question required to block the spam (what is 3+2). Impressing, we can count too !
I am just sorry for all the Americans who are represented by that kind of points of view, as haters are always the ones who shout louder. You can think what you want, but not tell things like that. You are born in this country, but you didn’t direct “Citizen Kane”, you didn’t act in “Friends”, you didn’t fight in World War, you didn’t walk on the Moon. Orson Welles did, the cast of Friends did, the youngs soldiers of the early 20th century did, Neil Amstrong did.
The writer of this blog is just blinded by the hate he accumulated during his childhood, and can’t deal with it as a normal person. Maybe you should just buy yourself a riffle at the supermarket and lock yourself in your basement, in case of an invasion by “stinky French”. Sorry to walk on your planet. But if you are so capable, maybe you should just take off to Jupiter, and settle down there. As we are not strong as you seem to be, we can’t follow your attractive person there. Please don’t kill your parents before commiting suicide.